Showing posts with label Next Gen Honda S2000. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Next Gen Honda S2000. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 30, 2011

Honda's Next Sportscar?

Stumbled across this in a recent S2000 fan site forum, interesting, they say that they found it in Road & Track; "According to R&T, this will be a 3.5 liter V6 based on the JDM Accord. The speculation is that the car will have 200 - 250 bhp and will sell in the $25,000 to $30,000 range. They say the car will hit dealers next year!" hmmm, wouldn't be too excited about seeing this car next year.... Source; http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/850960-s2000-replacement/

Saturday, September 25, 2010

Road & Track: Honda Contemplates a CR-Z Convertible

September 24, 2010 by Sam Mitani

We have reported about the possibility of an S2000 successor for many months, and now we’re hearing reports that it may indeed happen, but not in the way we previously imagined. Our sources in Tokyo have told us that Honda is putting a priority on adding a sports car in its lineup; the execs feel that a sports car is a necessity to uphold its brand image. While there have been many debates and arguments within the walls of Honda HQ’s Aoyama-based offices buildings about the details of the car, many believe that the best first step may be to use the CR-Z hybrid car’s platform. Despite its front-drive layout, performance will be increased via a stronger engine and lighter weight. If such a car can be created, it would go up against the likes of the Mazda MX-5. After this car is established, then Honda would move on to create a rear-drive high-powered sports car, probably with a hybrid powerplant. We’ll keep you up to date as news develops.

Source (via autoblog);
http://blog.roadandtrack.com/honda-contemplates-a-cr-z-convertible/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Next Gen Honda S2000/S3000 Rendering

Not sure what to think about a Honda logo on the front of a 'Mazda Smile'.... not the prettiest front end renderings that I've seen but the rest of the car looks hot....
Source;
http://www.woodyscarsite.com/2010/09/20-honda-s2000.html

Friday, June 25, 2010

Honda S2000 successor to be a mid-engine hybrid

Patent filings in Japan by Honda suggest that the automaker is working on a new roadster to take over where the Honda S2000 left off, according to Autocar. The application says the car will use "an engine being fitted to a centre frame," suggesting that the rear-wheel drive car will be mid-engined.

The magazine believes this model will be a hybrid, though that is speculation based on Honda's ever-changing corporate strategy. As S2000 sales dwindled in recent years, Honda will need to produce something that is both unique and competitively priced. Their push towards vehicles with reduced direct emissions does support the possibility of a hybrid roadster from the Japanese automaker.

After cancelling the Honda/Acura NSX successor, eliminating niche models across both brands, and reducing their motorsports spend -including the cancellation of the F1 team - the company was believed to only be in the "mass-market" game. A successor to the S2000 could keep in line with this strategy, if it is built to directly compete with the Mazda MX-5/Miata.

According to the patent application, the company would use parts and a frame from existing models, though these could be modified. Look for aluminum to be used in an effort to keep weight low. Current speculation suggests the car will be built on a similar platform as the Honda Jazz.

Autocar is hoping for the best, imagining a drop-top with a 50/50 weight ratio, well-geared electric motor, and petrol engine with more power than the CR-Z. Such a model would be capable of sprinting to 100 km/h in six seconds flat, writes the magazine.But until 2014, when the car would be released, we will just have to dream.

Friday, June 18, 2010

Honda to Fuse S2000 and Beat Into One

Small, Rear-Drive, Mid-Engine Roadster on the Drawing Board

The Honda S2000 was recently killed and the Honda Beat 660cc minicar of 1991 all but forgotten, but in a strange comeback story, they both may live again -- fused into the one car. We have just caught word from a source close to Honda that the company is busy at work 'molding' the two together in a radical new project that is taking shape inside the halls of Tochigi's R&D Centre just north of Tokyo. Dropped onto a modified Fit (Jazz) platform, the new roadster will apparently employ a rear mid-engined layout. An illustration of what the new car could become is depicted.

It's an intriguing new sports car plan from a company that doesn't really have much left in that genre short of the Civic Si and the hybrid CR-Z (the Civic Type R will cease production in August). We did some background research and discovered that Honda has lodged a patent pending in Japan to build a roadster using a subframe and parts from current cars but adding technology to lower curb weight and reduce production costs. The patent actually refers to the "engine being fitted to a center frame" which translates from Japanese to mid-engined and rear-wheel drive. So it will no doubt be lightweight and have good front-rear weight distribution at the same time.

But whether that "mid-engine" refers to a hybrid, fully electric or fuel cell is still unclear. In recent years, Honda has dabbled in all three alternative forms of propulsion, so it's anyone's guess which way they will lean. It's unlikely the automaker will build the car with a gasoline engine option as that would restrict its international application. And if there's anything the company wants, it's to make this car a global success. Don't expect to see this car on the road before 2014.

In other rear-wheel drive compact coupe news, as we've reported, Toyota too is in the process of developing a vehicle, but it will be a gas-powered, 1.5-liter two-door based on the hot hatch concept from GRMN that it debuted at last January's Tokyo Auto Salon. For those who haven't been paying attention to the company's racing exploits at Nurburgring recently, GRMN stands for Gazoo Racing - Meister of Nurburgring. Called a mini-FT-86 in Japan, the new compact coupe is expected in showrooms by early 2013.
Source;

Thursday, March 11, 2010

More Rendered Speculation on Honda S2000's High Performance Hybrid Coupe Successor

Not sure what to think about this one....Truth to be said, we've lost track of the number of inside stories and rendered scoops concerning Honda's rumored, but never officially confirmed, S2000 successor that have made their way on the internet from various Japanese magazines the past year or so.

We've no idea if Best Car's latest story on a high-performance hybrid sports coupe that would essentially replace the S2000 is based on facts or fiction, but the Japanese magazine is once again claiming that Honda is working on what could be best described as the CR-Z's big brother.

Aside from the new rendering that has nothing in common with the magazine's previous S2000 CGI, Best Car this time says that the sports model will be a 2+2 coupe with a hybrid powertrain combining a 2.5- or 3.0-liter engine to an electric motor.

No word if power will be transferred to the rear axle or as previously claimed, to all four wheels.

Source;
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2010/03/more-rendered-speculation-on-honda.html

Saturday, August 22, 2009

Road and Track's Gone but not Forgotten for 2010

Here's a nice article on some of the cars that will be 'retired' for 2010.
2010 Automotive Hot List: Gone But Not Forgotten
The automotive world will be a poorer place for 2010 without these five cars.
If you're up on your Honda S2000 knowledge, then you probably know two things: The first is that this high-revving roadster, first sold in late 1999 for the 2000 model year, was originally envisioned as a limited-edition model to commemorate Honda's 50th anniversary. The second is that after a 10-year model run (which, by the way, far exceeded the company's expectations — over 12,000 were sold worldwide in calendar year 1999, with 110,673 sold worldwide through 2008), the S2000 will cease production this year, the final car scheduled to roll off the assembly line at the end of June.
For those of you not up to speed on Honda's S2000, here's a brief refresher course: The S2000 brought Formula 1 engine technology to the street, with a 2.0-liter inline-4 that made 240 bhp (Honda was, understandably, very proud of the car's 120 bhp per liter — still an incredible number for a normally aspirated car to this day) and revved to 9000 rpm. The car made its peak power at an astronomical 8300 rpm, with Honda's VTEC variable valve timing kicking into high gear at 6000 rpm. The downside was that it only made 153 lb.-ft. of torque at 7500 rpm...so you really needed to rev it. Luckily, snicking through the gates of the 6-speed manual gearbox was pure joy, as it was (and remains today) one of the best-shifting gearboxes ever put into a production car.
Due to a curb weight of just 2755 lb. and rear-wheel drive, the S2000 was a terrific twisty two-lane and track-day machine, with quick, well-weighted steering and a fairly neutral handling balance. But early cars gained a reputation for being a bit nervous at the limit, resulting in the occasional unintended oversteer.

The S2000's interior was both unique and sporting (also Spartan), focused solely on the art of fast driving. Interesting features included its half-moon bar-graph tachometer display, a large digital speedometer readout as well as bar-graph displays for fuel level and coolant temperature. This instrument panel was ahead of its time in 1999, and many thought it was the wave of the future. Honda kept this electronic setup throughout the S2000's 10-year model run, although the tachometer's graph was reworked into more of a quarter-moon for the 2004 model. The car also had supportive seats and a grippy, small-diameter leather-wrapped 3-spoke steering wheel.
Although little changed on the S2000 throughout its 10-year run, 2004 saw updates to the engine and suspension. Addressing the S2000's anemic torque, Honda increased the engine's stroke to 90.7 mm for a gain of 181 cc, making it a 2.2-liter. High- and low-speed VTEC cam lobes were adjusted to make more productive torque, while the engine's redline was lowered to 8000 rpm. Peak power remained at 240 bhp, but was generated 500 rpm lower at 7800 rpm. Torque was increased from 153 lb.-ft. at 7500 rpm to 161 lb.-ft. at 6500 rpm. The ratios of the first four gears were also lowered to further improve acceleration.

To address the S2000's nervous tail, the '04 model received softer rear springs, a softer rear anti-roll bar and altered geometry. Wider tires (215/45R-17s up front with 245/40R-17s at the rear, versus the original car's 205/55R-16 front, 225/50R-16 rear setup) improved grip, especially at the rear.

On the outside, the '04 car could be spotted by its new 10-spoke wheels, new headlight cluster, LED taillights and oval exhaust tips. Inside, reshaped doorpanels, the aforementioned instrument panel and silver accents for the center console and radio cover were the highlights.
For the 2008 model year, Honda unveiled the limited-edition S2000 CR (for Club Racer), although the standard S2000 was still available. The CR's large rear wing, removable hardtop and in-your-face front air dam explained in no uncertain terms that, yes, this S2000's home was the race track. The car's firmer suspension — 38-percent stiffer front springs with 50-percent stiffer front dampers and 17-percent stiffer rear springs with 32-percent stiffer rear dampers, along with larger front and rear anti-roll bars hit home Honda's intentions. Even the stereo and air conditioning were deleted to save weight, although they could be added back as options. Stickier Bridgestone Potenza RE070s (215/45R-17 front, 255/40R-17 rear) and quicker steering rounded out the mechanical changes — the engine compartment was left completely untouched.
For a final farewell to the S2000 here at R&T, I borrowed a CR for a weekend track day at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca in Monterey, California. After giving the car all it was worth around Laguna's 2.2-mile road course, I can easily say the CR is the best S2000 Honda has ever built. The stiffer suspension settings, stickier tires, better aero work and hardtop make the CR a truly terrific track-day weapon. The CR's steering is quick and precise and the car is very well planted. Handling is near neutral, with just a bit of understeer at the limit that's easily adjusted with the throttle or trail braking, allowing me to "back it in," for instance, into the left-hander at the top of Laguna's Corkscrew. In low-speed turns, the CR's easy-to-control demeanor allows power-on tail-out action.
Due to the CR's small band of usable power — basically from 6000-8000 rpm — lots of shifting is required to keep the engine on boil. No problem, what with the car's phenomenally positive short-throw 6-speed manual. Another CR plus? Lots of head room, allowing plenty of helmet clearance.

Minuses? Only a few. Obviously, we wouldn't turn away more power if Honda were offering — there's just not a lot of oomph down the straights. At the same time, this is a true driver's car in the sense that it needs to be driven hard to eek out its full potential. There's also something truly special about the high-pitched scream emanating from under the hood, along with the engine's willingness to rev to 8000 rpm all day long.

Honda fits the exact same brakes to the CR as it does the standard S2000 (including pads), which means the pedal exhibits a nice, firm feel. But, toward the end of the first day of lapping, the pedal became soft, with longer stopping distances. By the end of the second day at Laguna, the pads were completely shot. The fix here would be more aggressive pads, an absolute must for any production car on a track day.

Ok, so the CR is a fantastic track car. But what's it like driving it to and from the track, or more importantly: Would a sane person even consider driving it to work? Although the CR's ride is harsher than your average family sedan, it's actually pretty easy to live with. Sure, some clutch slippage and revs are needed for quick-off-the-line stoplight launches; and don't expect Lexus-like civility inside the cockpit — the engine can be buzzy and a fair amount of tire noise makes its presence felt on the highway. But compared to pretty much any track-day car equipped with aftermarket suspension components, the CR is a pussycat.
And that's part of what makes the S2000 CR so alluring. You can virtually drive it off the showroom floor directly to a track, where it will perform (driver willing) at a level with cars making far more power, no modifications needed (other than brake pads). Plus, at $38,665 — with air conditioning and an 8-speaker AM/FM/CD stereo system — the CR is a mighty good bargain.

If the S2000 is so good, why is Honda killing it? A U.S. Honda official said: "It was simply decided that after a successful 10-year run, with lagging demand and a tough economic climate, production should be ended." And it was a good run, especially for a car Honda didn't have big plans for. But with only 2538 cars sold in the U.S. in 2008, the writing was on the wall.
So what can we expect as far as an affordable Honda sports car in the future? For now, a Honda source told us there are "no current plans for a successor. Never say never, but there's nothing on the radar."

In other words, until the economy picks up, don't count on something like the S2000 from Honda. But when things start looking up again, we wouldn't be surprised if Honda brings out a new sports car that's less expensive than the S2000, yet equally high-revving and exciting.
We can only hope. In the meantime, if you're looking for killer track-day car that's also a blast to drive on the street, the S2000 CR should be at the top of your list. Get one while you still can.
Source;

Thursday, July 16, 2009

7tune: Hybrid, FWD Honda S2000 Due In 2012

Hybrid, FWD Honda S2000 Due In 2012
It’s hybrid mania in Japan now with all manner of models starting to appear. As far as upcoming models are concerned though, the most disappointing seems to be the Honda S2000 “successor”. We’re told that come 2012, the new S2000 replacement will only have the number of doors and its name in common with the previous car.
It’s interesting to note that rumors surrounding a front wheel drive S2000 replacement have been circulating since at least late 2006, so it’s fair to say that S2000 fans shouldn’t get their hopes up for the next incarnation of Honda’s sports convertible. Gone are the days of high revving engines and rear wheel drive fun, they’ll be replaced with “low emission, high class” motoring in a package that has little in common with its predecessor. We’re told that the new S2000 will share its 2nd-generation hybrid driveline with that of the new Honda Accord and as such will be front wheel drive only. That being the case, the S2000 will be a step above the new hybrid CR-Z (or CR-ZX as some sources quote it as being) as far as outright performance goes. A retractable hardtop will add weight but now that the driving wheels will be at the front, it probably won’t be an issue for prospective buyers who we assume won’t be current S2000 owners. The hybrid Honda S2000 is expected to go on sale in early 2012.
Source;

Thursday, May 28, 2009

Honda S2000 successor independently rendered

Late yesterday, we showed you the handiwork of 3D rendering guru Lars Martensson (a.k.a. 'GRID'), who had applied his skills to a future vision of a new Subaru WRX STI. Today, we bring you the skilled Swede's take on what a next-generation Honda S2000 roadster might look like.While this concept has no basis in reality (and rumors of an S200 successor have thus far amounted to nothing), as with the Subie, we find a lot of merit in what we see.
Source;

Monday, May 25, 2009

Honda may introduce 2 new hybrid sports cars in the near future

Above is the upcoming CRZ hybrid....
Here is a joint venture (chinese company) prototype of something that could pass as a S2000 replacement....
Following the introduction of the second generation Insight, Honda has recommitted itself to developing hybrid drive vehicles. We now have the Civic and Insight in North America and Japan will soon have a Fit hybrid as well. Honda has also confirmed that a production version of the CR-Z concept will arrive within the next year as a hybrid coupe. It's being reported that the production CR-Z may have a 2.5-liter four cylinder engine with direct injection. If true, that would be Honda's first direct injected production engine.
A second new sporty hybrid could be a successor to the soon to be discontinued S2000 roadster. If Japan's Best Car magazine is to be believed, the car they refer to as FF-S2000 will be powered by Honda's 3.5-liter V6. it will apparently also use Honda's all wheel drive system. The FF-S2000 may even use a flywheel based KERS (kinetic energy recovery system) like those developed for Formula 1 to provide a further performance boost. It's not known if KERS would be used in addition to or in lieu of Honda's IMA hybrid system. Unfortunately, we have no confirmation of any of this at this point.
Source;

Thursday, April 23, 2009

Shanghai 2009: Guangzhou Honda Linian roadster concept is messing with our S2000-loving heads

Guangzhou Honda surprised everyone at the Shanghai show with this tidy little roadster, its second Linian concept in as many years. While the 2008 Beijing show concept was a more pedestrian five-door, this two-seat droptop has us wishing for a proper S2000 successor.

Oh, one can quibble over some of the design details (oversized grille element, the showcar-only airplane yoke-style steering wheel, etc.), but fundamentally this is an interesting package.Sadly, according to our compatriots at Autoblog Simplified Chinese, Honda's domestic partner was mum on specifics, including driveline configuration, powerplant, and so on. That said, the shape does look quite production friendly. Add in a stronger windshield header, some larger mirrors, and do away with that Knight Rider steering wheel, and the rest seems plausible enough.

Rest assured, we are angling for more information on this car as we speak, but for now, enjoy the possibilities... and the gallery below.

Source;
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/21/shanghai-2009-guangzhou-honda-linian-roadster-concept-is-messin/

Friday, January 23, 2009

Honda's Next Gen S2000 the Honda S3000 Speculation

With all the talk of the Honda S3000 being back on track, I figured it would be nice to post a couple of pictures floating around as to what the car might look like.

Enjoy!

Saturday, January 17, 2009

Look at all these Rumours, In front of me every day ....

At this point these are just rumours!


Here is a concept of the next gen Toyota Supra (V10 or V12 for 340k?!?)
They seem to think that the Next Gen Honda S2000 has been spared....
Nissan is apparently looking at bringing a 4 door GT-R to the market?!?
InsideLine's correspondent in Japan says that despite the global economic crisis that has caused the demise of the Acura NSX, there are plenty of good things on the way from Japan's top automakers.

Adding fuel to the rumormill fire, Peter Lyon reports that Nissan is hard at work developing two models based off the Nissan GT-R: the oft-rumored four-door Infiniti and a Porsche Cayenne-fighting SUV, a vehicle that has already been denied by Nissan. Naturally, he doesn't disclose his sources, nor does he go into detail about the automakers efforts, but both models are expected to be released sometime in 2011.

The rumored demise of the Lexus LF-A is also open to debate – yet again – and according to Lyon's logic, after Toyota made the decision to continue its Formula One campaign, the automaker "still wants to bring its first true supercar to market." The V10-powered luxo-coupe is supposedly 12 to 18 months off and pricing is expected to retail for close to $340,000.Two other vehicles on the chopping block that Lyon says have been spared are the Honda S2000 replacement, which could debut in late 2011 or early 2012, as well as Toyota's plans to bring back the Supra with V6 power in 2011. The all-new Subaru Legacy which debuted in Detroit is also slated to arrive in production form this May, with sales beginning sometime in the fall.

We are not entirely convinced that any of these projects are sure things, so until we get confirmation from the individual automakers, we'll remain comfortably numb to the news.

Source (via Inside Line).